i wittnessed in my time several woe filled jw's apon hearing that one of their former members had died while out or the "turth".
the typical reaction was " we can only pray to jehovah that their heart condition was right at the end".
wtf!
They DF'ed my grandfather because he was a paronoid schizophrenic and would cast out demons in the name of Jehovah. After he died he was posthumously reinstated.
As an aside, what if hypothetically, your witness spouce died and you remarried another witness....wouldn't that create a bit uncomfortability after the ressurection if you all made it through? What happens then? do you remain married to them both or do you flip a coin and the loser gets a basket ball named wilson?
does anyone know if the society has specific policies on the handling of members with mental health problems?.
my grandfather, a brother in good standing since moses developed paranoid schizophrenia in his later years.
he got to the stage where he would knock people over in the street, place his hand on thier head and cast out evil spirits in the name of jehovah.. he was disfellowshiped and not long after he passed away.. this was related to me by a friend years later as i was unaware due to the shunning, i didn't even know he died.
Does anyone know if the society has specific policies on the handling of members with mental health problems?
My grandfather, a brother in good standing since moses developed Paranoid Schizophrenia in his later years. He got to the stage where he would knock people over in the street, place his hand on thier head and cast out evil spirits in the name of Jehovah.
He was disfellowshiped and not long after he passed away.
This was related to me by a friend years later as I was unaware due to the shunning, I didn't even know he died. From what I understand, he was later posthumously reinstated.
after watching a recent documentry on "the final solution" i saw adolf hitler in some huge venue with thousands present public speaking and the crowd were mesmerised and full of praise for him judging by the response he got from them and the applause , i thought back to assemblies when people gave a similar reaction when in affect they were being told millions had to die to make the world a better place for them to live in and nobody seemed bothered by this (except me) and i even thought back then ,that something was not quite right , there was even a mention of a thousand year reign by the third reich , i thought that sounded familiar !
did anyone else think this or do i think weird things ?.
thanks to those damn assemblies I have not been able to eat a donut in over 30years! I always seemed to get stuck on donut making duty...I must have eaten a bazillion of the burnt, drippy, misshaped, left over or otherwise unsellable ones
hey guys.... .
just wondering what kh you guys attended and or congregation you are from?.
me, i'm from hayes cong london and golden ash northants... spent time in others too but mostly those... oh, also a short spat in kempston cong bedford... all in england... :).
Bathurst N.S.W. Australia
after watching a recent documentry on "the final solution" i saw adolf hitler in some huge venue with thousands present public speaking and the crowd were mesmerised and full of praise for him judging by the response he got from them and the applause , i thought back to assemblies when people gave a similar reaction when in affect they were being told millions had to die to make the world a better place for them to live in and nobody seemed bothered by this (except me) and i even thought back then ,that something was not quite right , there was even a mention of a thousand year reign by the third reich , i thought that sounded familiar !
did anyone else think this or do i think weird things ?.
ps.. assemblies were those who believed, those who didn't but dared not voice it and those who were there to pick up chicks
after watching a recent documentry on "the final solution" i saw adolf hitler in some huge venue with thousands present public speaking and the crowd were mesmerised and full of praise for him judging by the response he got from them and the applause , i thought back to assemblies when people gave a similar reaction when in affect they were being told millions had to die to make the world a better place for them to live in and nobody seemed bothered by this (except me) and i even thought back then ,that something was not quite right , there was even a mention of a thousand year reign by the third reich , i thought that sounded familiar !
did anyone else think this or do i think weird things ?.
nope, often thought the same thing, those who believed and those who didn't but dared not voice it.
I lost count of how many time we were told Hitler qualified for the resurrection
i was born into "the truth" back in 1964. i made the big mistake of getting baptised when i was about 14 or so, purely to please my father as i saw how proud he was when my brothers were baptised....didn't work.. we moved to a new congregation when i was about 8, he introduced all my brothers to the congregation by name, a short bio of thier endearing qualities and how proud he was of them, when he introduced me it was "and this is our black sheep of the family, steve".. i remember living in fear at the fast approaching 1975....actually, living in terror is probably a more apt desciption.
all of you will full well know how it was instilled into us at every meeting and assembly how we are living in the last days.. as a 15 year old, a brother dobbed me in for kissing a worldly girl at school.
went through the marked process, judicial committy, disfellowshipped and the shunning which continues to this day by what's left of my family.
Thanks for the welcome!
I don't for a minute believe armageddon is just around the corner, next month, decade etc... I did back when I was a witness because the brothers told us so and as we know the brothers never lie!
Even so, I think sometimes many of us, well I know I do, carry with us and maybe for life a remnant of the affects of years of indoctrination or brainwashing.
Thechickennest, thanks, my dad was a bastard, but after reading some of the accounts here he was a mild one. In all honesty I am indebted to him as he taught me how not to be a parent. Also I don't blame him, he was a product of his JW parents and a product of the organisation.
I would pay any price to be able to get my family to see the organisation as only an ex-witness can see it, and free them.
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anyone know when the memorial is this year?.
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I'm not sure if I'd call it yearly guilting, more like residual brainwashing.
I know I still have it 30 years latter
my worst field service experience was this.. i didn't have a car at the time and so a pioneer sister was picking me up of service every couple of days.
she was my partner and i got a door where the woman was clearly not interested.
as i am stepping away the pioneer sister starts in with all the objection stoppers.
We mostly lived rural and mostly witnessed rural.
Nearly every house had a kid in your class at school or who went to your school. After witnessing all weekend you wouldn't have minded armageddon hitting before you had to face the ridicule Monday morning.
i was born into "the truth" back in 1964. i made the big mistake of getting baptised when i was about 14 or so, purely to please my father as i saw how proud he was when my brothers were baptised....didn't work.. we moved to a new congregation when i was about 8, he introduced all my brothers to the congregation by name, a short bio of thier endearing qualities and how proud he was of them, when he introduced me it was "and this is our black sheep of the family, steve".. i remember living in fear at the fast approaching 1975....actually, living in terror is probably a more apt desciption.
all of you will full well know how it was instilled into us at every meeting and assembly how we are living in the last days.. as a 15 year old, a brother dobbed me in for kissing a worldly girl at school.
went through the marked process, judicial committy, disfellowshipped and the shunning which continues to this day by what's left of my family.
I was born into "the truth" back in 1964. I made the big mistake of getting baptised when I was about 14 or so, purely to please my father as I saw how proud he was when my brothers were baptised....didn't work.
We moved to a new congregation when I was about 8, he introduced all my brothers to the congregation by name, a short bio of thier endearing qualities and how proud he was of them, when he introduced me it was "and this is our black sheep of the family, Steve".
I remember living in fear at the fast approaching 1975....actually, living in terror is probably a more apt desciption. All of you will full well know how it was instilled into us at EVERY meeting and assembly how we are living in the last days.
As a 15 year old, a brother dobbed me in for kissing a worldly girl at school. Went through the marked process, judicial committy, disfellowshipped and the shunning which continues to this day by what's left of my family. Proved dad right..
I'm now 45, two beautiful daughters I could not be more proud of and two wonderful gorgeous grand kiddies.
What bothers me is I watch a news item about some catastrophy, or some war or calamitous world changing event and still in the back of my mind I ask myself, is this it? what if they were right?
